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Re: Which RAID should I use?

17 Replies Last post: May 22, 2009 11:35 PM by EmmanuelOnwulata   1 2 Previous Next
Ralph DeFrangesco   54 posts since
Oct 3, 2008
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Dec 16, 2009 1:52 PM

Which RAID should I use?

"There are many RAID strategies on the market today. RAID 1 and 5 still remain the most popular. If you had to choose one to protect your data, what would you choose and why?"

DaveVenier   10 posts since
May 13, 2009
1. May 17, 2009 10:30 PM in response to: Ralph DeFrangesco
Re: Which RAID should I use?

Coming from more of a development background, revolving around database back ends, I would choose RAID 5+1 to host and protect my data.  With RAID 5+1 I get the benefits of the read speed of the multiple disk heads reading multiple pieces of information along with the mirroring of those disks.  Most database users are concerned with the speed at which the data is returned to them, so the users will have fast access to that data.  However, in a database environment, users can't afford to have the disks down for hours to repair if one of the disks in the array goes bad.  That is where the 1 (mirroring) comes into play.  If there is a problem with one of the disks in one of the arrays, the mirror would be in place and users would not know that one of the arrays is down.  This does have a downfall though, it would be quite expensive to have all the disks required to have this type of setup.  In an environment like a hospital this cost could be justified.  Hospitals are 24 hour a day operations and can't afford to have downtime outside of small windows of time. 

ChrisRitchie   11 posts since
May 11, 2009
2. May 18, 2009 8:15 AM in response to: DaveVenier
Re: Which RAID should I use?

Well Dave - I don't think any hospital has a maintenance window larger than 30 minuters, if that. Personally I have never worked in a hospital or medical facility so I am just guessing. However, the cost must always be justified to allow the likes of 'us' to perform our magical feats...

ChrisRitchie   11 posts since
May 11, 2009
3. May 18, 2009 8:21 AM in response to: Ralph DeFrangesco
Re: Which RAID should I use?

A daunting question limited to only your budget! As Dave stated there are many RAID configurations. However, in my current situation we use RAID 1 and RAID 5. The RAID 1 is used for the host operating system. Where the RAID 5 is configured for the 'DATA'. Incorporated in the RAID 5 is a Global Hot Spare to avoid any downtime that might happen during a failure. The Global Hot Spare automatically takes over for any other Hard Drive in the Array that shows possible failure. Then the failing Hard Drive can be inspected and/or replaced with a new Hard Drive. Thus becoming the new Global Hot Spare.

This configuration aviods downtime and allows the technicians time to correct issues. It works for us!

NateChessher   11 posts since
May 11, 2009
4. May 18, 2009 12:52 PM in response to: Ralph DeFrangesco
Re: Which RAID should I use?

My strategic preference, assuming I had the budget, would be two Raid 5 machines configured as Active/Passive cluster - or Active/Active if the load was heavy.

 

I like Raid 5 because one can still recover the data (as long as only one drive fails), and even though it takes some time. The added extra redundancy of a cluster would at least keep operations running, allowing for time to rebuild the data on the failed drive, without adding the extra variable of users using the server while the drive is being rebuilt. I know you are supposed to be able to do that, but it makes me reeaaaly nervous.

AndreHopson   20 posts since
May 10, 2009
5. May 18, 2009 11:24 PM in response to: Ralph DeFrangesco
Re: Which RAID should I use?

I would use RAID 5. It offers efficient storage, execellent security, and good performance. Plus, it is ideal for file and application servers. Two things that would be high on my 'concern' list.

AndreHopson   20 posts since
May 10, 2009
6. May 18, 2009 4:10 PM in response to: DaveVenier
Re: Which RAID should I use?

Dave makes a great point for using RAID 5+1. Looking at the big picture it comes down to money. What is the cost-benefit ratio between using RAID 5 compared to RAID 5+1? It all depends on your company and what their needs are. Is speed more important than production? If your company can deal with the downtime if an array is lost than RAID 5 is for you, if not, then you may want to invest in RAID 5+1.

WarrickStJean   28 posts since
May 11, 2009
7. May 18, 2009 9:01 PM in response to: Ralph DeFrangesco
Re: Which RAID should I use?

I'm going to go against the grain on this one, to make this thread "interesting", RAID stands for Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks. IF I was restricted to just one option I would go with RAID 1! My logic here is that RAID 1 requires at least 2 drives Vs RAID 5 requires a minimum of 3 disks. Choosing RAID1 would reduce hardware cost by 1/3. Most physical servers have a very limited role on the network, storage is required for the OS and a handful of applications. Given the rapidly increasing capacity of current hard drives there is NO real need to configures with RAID 5 for the additional storage capacity. For those who prefer to keep the system and data partition separate this can easily be configured within the OS.

With regard to redundancy my argument is that RAID 1 and RAID 5 essentially allow for the SAME level of protection against failure. in a RAID 1 configuration a maximum of 2 drives can fail before catastrophy (data unrecoverable). Although RAID 5 offers parity, it is also resticted to a maximum of 2 drive failures before catastrophy. From a pure cost and redundancy perspective I believe that RAID 1 is the way to go       

TimHuong   10 posts since
May 10, 2009
9. May 18, 2009 11:05 PM in response to: Ralph DeFrangesco
Re: Which RAID should I use?

There is no clear cut answer between RAID1 and RAID5. It is really how the data is going to be used or accessed. RAID5, with more disks, would enhance the read performance. The RAID5 read performance increases as more disks are added to the array because the more disks are the more read/write heads there are, and RAID5 arrays have the ability to read simultaneously from all the drives, speeding read access. Since RAID1 only has two disk drives, and RAID5 has three or more disk drives, RAID5 has the read performance advantage.

TimHuong   10 posts since
May 10, 2009
10. May 18, 2009 11:13 PM in response to: DaveVenier
Re: Which RAID should I use?

I have to agree with Dave. This is an expensive way to allocate arrays, but it offers speed and high degree of redundancy.This method can be performed by creating separate array for log files and data. Since log files are mostly write to, isolating a log file on its own arrray allows the array to mostly use sequential writes, which offer overall better performance. It is a good idea to locate log files on an array that does not have data files because you don't want to risk losing both your data files and your log files should an entire array fail. But Server such SQL Server binary which does mostly read it is best to set RAID5 for read performance.

NateChessher   11 posts since
May 11, 2009
11. May 20, 2009 12:41 PM in response to: Ralph DeFrangesco
Re: Which RAID should I use?

I just read this article on zdnet and thought y'all might find it interesting.

(It is relevant)

 

http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=162

EmmanuelOnwulata   11 posts since
May 12, 2009
12. May 20, 2009 11:59 PM in response to: NateChessher
Re: Which RAID should I use?

Given my limited knowledge on the many RAID levels out there. I think striplng is useless as it does not offer any kind of redundancy. My Choice would be a RAID 5+ 1 because of the level of protection and fault tolerance that it offers.  I Could  lose any one drive and still not lose my data. If I could afford it, I would setup A mirrored RAID 5 set, I think it's called RAID 51 now. I might be wrong on the RAID number, but you get the point.

ekortee   7 posts since
May 10, 2009
13. May 21, 2009 12:58 AM in response to: Ralph DeFrangesco
Re: Which RAID should I use?

I will choose RAID 5 over RAID 1. The reason is because RAID 5 has more benefits than RAID 1. The first thing to factor out of this discussion is about pricing. As we all know, not any amount of money can pay for data. When we are talking about protecting data, I think the cost of hard drives shouldn't be a determinant. The tradeoff between the prices of using two hard disks versus three hard disks cannot be compared to the benefits derived from using RAID 5. RAID 5 has a lot of advantages which include higher data security, fault tolerance, high availability, etc.

DaveVenier   10 posts since
May 13, 2009
14. May 21, 2009 8:26 PM in response to: WarrickStJean
Re: Which RAID should I use?

Warrick,

I agree that both RAID 1 and RAID 5 provide the fault tolerance that most places will need I wouldn't just use RAID 1 because of disk cost savings.  RAID 5 can read the data quicker than RAID 1 can so that might be something to keep in mind if implementing RAID.  Just thoughts, but both work.

-Dave

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