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ROI and OS Security Architecture

20 Replies Last post: Nov 11, 2009 12:09 AM by ValentinIvanov   1 2 Previous Next
Ralph DeFrangesco   54 posts since
Oct 3, 2008
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Dec 16, 2009 1:32 PM

ROI and OS Security Architecture

"How does ROI figure into OS Security Architecture?"

JeVoneSmith   24 posts since
Sep 27, 2009
1. Nov 8, 2009 9:30 PM in response to: Ralph DeFrangesco
Re: ROI and OS Security Architecture

This is a very interesting topic of discussion, Return on investment is commonly used by bean counters to justify monies spent for products or services. With security, it's hard to measure because security usually is not measurable or has metrics that go along with it. Return on investment figures into OS security architecture by what it prevents from happening. It's a process that is integrated throughout the OS Architecture model not a program. What a company would have to do to measure the ROI would be to research security breaches and holes other companies or comparable  sized companies have experiences and reported the amount of money it cost then by not allocating the monies. Then they can look into what they need in respect to security and figure out how much they want to spend in comparison to what their assets are worth and profit. In the long run it could save a company millions of dollars if it's built into the initial architecture instead of trying to implement it at a later date. The cost to make the change after the the fact can be very costly.

RobDeStasio   16 posts since
Sep 27, 2009
2. Nov 9, 2009 1:14 PM in response to: Ralph DeFrangesco
Re: ROI and OS Security Architecture

Lets face it security can be expensive and when trying to implement a security system that is going to cost big bucks the company needs to know what it is they have to gain. ROI is important because it can show whoever your working for the benefits of their investments in a particular security set up. Seeing the amount of money they will save after implementation can show the advantages of having the security system as opposed to not having it.

RobDeStasio   16 posts since
Sep 27, 2009
3. Nov 9, 2009 1:24 PM in response to: JeVoneSmith
Re: ROI and OS Security Architecture

I agree Jevone, researching losses, security holes, and the value of the assets themselves can go a long way in deciding how a company may want to protect themselves. ROI can help open the eyes and gives an idea of what the company will be saving if they choose to secure their systems. I also agree that once they take losses the cost of change will be even greater.

BryanMareletto   16 posts since
Sep 28, 2009
4. Nov 9, 2009 2:41 PM in response to: Ralph DeFrangesco
Re: ROI and OS Security Architecture

As an architect, you must be able to relay the return on investment to upper management so that your ideas will be accepted. It is important to explain the value of your ideas so that it is clear there will be a return on the investment. Also, with any system that is designed, the goal is to have some sort of ROI in order to generate what is important to the business over time.

BryanMareletto   16 posts since
Sep 28, 2009
5. Nov 9, 2009 2:43 PM in response to: RobDeStasio
Re: ROI and OS Security Architecture

Rob I agree, showing the benefits of ROI in respect to how much money can be saved, or how much money a system can generate for the business will always be looked upon as favorable.

MarcZurcher   14 posts since
Sep 25, 2009
6. Nov 9, 2009 6:13 PM in response to: Ralph DeFrangesco
Re: ROI and OS Security Architecture

ROI and OS security Architecture are basically two peas in a pod. As one of our previous professors said, if you can't sell security to upper management then you have no place in security. ROI is all about what are you going to get back for what you put in to it. This is where soft skills come in great need! without soft skills being able to sell this to upper management and get the ROI is never going to happen.

MarcZurcher   14 posts since
Sep 25, 2009
7. Nov 9, 2009 6:18 PM in response to: BryanMareletto
Re: ROI and OS Security Architecture

Bryan, This is similar to what i said in my post about how you have to justify ROI to upper management. Its like telling them to buy a million dollars worth of stuff and that the ROI would be billions NOT lost due to down time.

JeVoneSmith   24 posts since
Sep 27, 2009
8. Nov 9, 2009 7:50 PM in response to: BryanMareletto
Re: ROI and OS Security Architecture

Upper management will need to understand that ROI will not always be tangible or come in the form of monetary value. Instead it could be the potential of security infractions that could potentially go wrong but have not occurred. They haven't occurred because of the security architecture that is in place.

AndreMunford   16 posts since
Sep 29, 2009
9. Nov 10, 2009 7:23 AM in response to: Ralph DeFrangesco
Re: ROI and OS Security Architecture

ROI figures into OS Security Architecture is by the plan you design. The plan you design could save the company money in the long term which would or may generate more business for you if your plan is an effective plan because if your plan is effective, you'll add more value to the company.

ValentinIvanov   18 posts since
Sep 30, 2009
10. Nov 10, 2009 10:36 AM in response to: Ralph DeFrangesco
Re: ROI and OS Security Architecture

ROI for Security Architecture is a way to measure how much we can spend on a security system, which protects data valued at an X amount of dollars. As it was mentioned several times in class, we should not spend $1million on $100,000 worth of data. The problem on estimating how much return on investment we can get from a security system, is that sometimes data which does not have a significant dollar value attached to it, might be worth much more in company reputation, or have a significant intellectual value, both of which are hard to measure. In order to actually measure the ROI for the system we implement after a dollar value has been assigned to the data, we have to protect it for certain period of time from being stolen, leaked, erased, modified, or otherwise compromised.

AndreMunford   16 posts since
Sep 29, 2009
11. Nov 10, 2009 9:04 PM in response to: ValentinIvanov
Re: ROI and OS Security Architecture

I agree with Valentin to an extent. He's right that you can put a dollar amount on ROI but sometimes ROI isn't just dealing with money. It may be more business from them in the future to having a great business reputation  with thme or other clients.

kareemrue   19 posts since
Sep 27, 2009
12. Nov 10, 2009 10:10 PM in response to: Ralph DeFrangesco
Re: ROI and OS Security Architecture

Security is very necessary in business today. The best why to see your return on that investment is to quantify the actually amount of dollars that would be lost if hacked. Ask the question what would be the total damage if a breach occurs. What is our reputation worth? If you are a bank or a credit card company how many customers would you lose from the damaged reputation. What would the down time in man hours cost. How much money would be lost during the time the systems where down if attacked. Your return is the amount of money you did not lose. This could be millions of dollars in savings for a few hundred thousand dollars spent on security. When we look at it this way I think we can easily see our return on investment.



kareemrue   19 posts since
Sep 27, 2009
13. Nov 10, 2009 10:17 PM in response to: AndreMunford
Re: ROI and OS Security Architecture

I agree if what you mean by saving the company money means not losing money by being hacked and being shut down by a denial of service attack

IanGreen   15 posts since
Sep 24, 2009
14. Nov 10, 2009 10:26 PM in response to: Ralph DeFrangesco
Re: ROI and OS Security Architecture

Its hard to actually show ROI with IT security, but the best way to do it is show what the cost is up front to implement your design, hardware, and labor hours.  Then you show the cost of cleanup, remediation, and recovery when a business doesn’t implement some type of IT security.

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