http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/community/kn?view=discussions Most recent forum messages en Sat, 06 Jun 2009 12:33:11 GMT Clearspace 2.5.5 (http://jivesoftware.com/products/clearspace/) 2009-06-06T12:33:11Z en http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1456?tstart=0#1456 My preference would be to force the users to upload and modify files in a document management system such as MS SharePoint. While one would still have to deal with other files stored on local PC's, a centralized repository for storage of the most Sat, 06 Jun 2009 12:33:11 GMT webadmin@itbusinessedge.com http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1456?tstart=0#1456 2009-06-06T12:33:11Z 5 months, 2 weeks ago http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1455?tstart=0#1455 I don't think company data should be left up to the user to back up. company should take every step to ensure that their data is safe. Having a policy of some sort in place is a good idea, but the only way to enforce it is to make it somebody's job to Sat, 06 Jun 2009 04:48:32 GMT webadmin@itbusinessedge.com http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1455?tstart=0#1455 2009-06-06T04:48:32Z 5 months, 2 weeks ago http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1454?tstart=0#1454 in an environment where the user's rights and permissions are managed by the server, the client's desktop or home directory should automatically synchronize with the server. that way backup is performed from one place. On the other hand software can be Sat, 06 Jun 2009 04:37:29 GMT webadmin@itbusinessedge.com http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1454?tstart=0#1454 2009-06-06T04:37:29Z 5 months, 2 weeks ago http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1452?tstart=0#1452 I would like to echo ekortee's position regarding the value of user data. Depending on the type and size of of organization end users will have a more significant responsibility in managing the safety of their local data. it is a challenge to manage Fri, 05 Jun 2009 10:20:56 GMT webadmin@itbusinessedge.com http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1452?tstart=0#1452 2009-06-05T10:20:56Z 5 months, 2 weeks ago http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1450?tstart=0#1450 Tim, I differ with you in your earlier post. What is your definition of "business traffic" in your post? What if the business traffic that you are referring to is been generated by the end users? I believe that end users are as important as any critical Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:21:00 GMT webadmin@itbusinessedge.com http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1450?tstart=0#1450 2009-06-03T19:21:00Z 5 months, 3 weeks ago http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1449?tstart=0#1449 I believe that end users are as important as the servers and other critical network nodes we protect and are required to restore in the wake of a disaster. However, because end users tend to work with lot of different files, some of which that are not Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:15:55 GMT webadmin@itbusinessedge.com http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1449?tstart=0#1449 2009-06-03T19:15:55Z 5 months, 3 weeks ago http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1448?tstart=0#1448 I agree with Chris's statement. It really is up to the user to archive their data onto some type of external device. It is the user's responsibility to know and to archive their own files if it is important to them. By locally backing up the data on the Wed, 03 Jun 2009 06:22:19 GMT webadmin@itbusinessedge.com http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1448?tstart=0#1448 2009-06-03T06:22:19Z 5 months, 3 weeks ago 2 http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1447?tstart=0#1447 I don't think we should backup the end-users desktop. It would put too much burden on us and would build congestion on the network traffic. Forcing them to write the files on the network drive can still cause the same situation.It's really up to the Wed, 03 Jun 2009 06:18:51 GMT webadmin@itbusinessedge.com http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1447?tstart=0#1447 2009-06-03T06:18:51Z 5 months, 3 weeks ago http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1444?tstart=0#1444 The topic of desktop backup is a one of those multifaceted topics that IT professinals all have a unique opinion about. I believe that a competent IT professional is a business enabler who skillfully uses technology and policy to protect the end users Tue, 02 Jun 2009 01:04:01 GMT webadmin@itbusinessedge.com http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1444?tstart=0#1444 2009-06-02T01:04:01Z 5 months, 3 weeks ago http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1443?tstart=0#1443 You make a good point, Chris. It is someone's job to monitor the size of employees storage (IT staff). If they are about to reach their limit an email should be sent out notifying them and instructing them on what they need to do. As Dave stated "what Mon, 01 Jun 2009 02:21:38 GMT webadmin@itbusinessedge.com http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1443?tstart=0#1443 2009-06-01T02:21:38Z 5 months, 3 weeks ago http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1442?tstart=0#1442 I think you have to come to a compromise of some sort. You can send out emails and information regarding keeping files on your desktop. Next step would be to try to address the topic thru a policy. Then you would need to conduct some training on why we Mon, 01 Jun 2009 02:13:55 GMT webadmin@itbusinessedge.com http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1442?tstart=0#1442 2009-06-01T02:13:55Z 5 months, 3 weeks ago 1 http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1441?tstart=0#1441 Well Dave that's what archives are for - files that are not used in the 'daily routine'. If you have files that you only use once or twice a year, archive them onto some type of external media - CD-Rom, DVD, etc... This way those important documents can Sun, 31 May 2009 20:37:44 GMT webadmin@itbusinessedge.com http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1441?tstart=0#1441 2009-05-31T20:37:44Z 5 months, 3 weeks ago http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1440?tstart=0#1440 Chris, I agree.  I feel like a larger orginazations backup policies would probably be better than a smaller org's policies.   As one of the users who feels that every document that I have is important it would be hard for me to go through and Sun, 31 May 2009 20:00:16 GMT webadmin@itbusinessedge.com http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1440?tstart=0#1440 2009-05-31T20:00:16Z 5 months, 3 weeks ago 1 http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1439?tstart=0#1439 Yes, in a perfect world we should force files to the server.  By doing this it’s makes the data easier to manage.  Also if the machine crashes or is stolen the data is not located on that computer.  However there are several issues with this.  If the Sun, 31 May 2009 19:55:40 GMT webadmin@itbusinessedge.com http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1439?tstart=0#1439 2009-05-31T19:55:40Z 5 months, 3 weeks ago http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1438?tstart=0#1438 I guess this is a dillema if you are in a small company more than a mid-sized or larger company. There are soo many possible ways to back-up a users files that's it's going to be difficult to manage no matter what. Most users feel that every document is Sun, 31 May 2009 13:44:00 GMT webadmin@itbusinessedge.com http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1438?tstart=0#1438 2009-05-31T13:44:00Z 5 months, 3 weeks ago 3 http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1423?tstart=0#1423 "End users should not keep critical files on the desktop, however many still do. Should we include desktops in a backup strategy or force them to write files to a network drive?" Thu, 28 May 2009 11:58:17 GMT webadmin@itbusinessedge.com http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/message/1423?tstart=0#1423 2009-05-28T11:58:17Z 5 months, 3 weeks ago 15