Did Clients' Angst over Alleged Visa Fraud Hurt Infosys' Earnings?

Don Tennant

In responding to reporters' and analysts' questions stemming from Infosys' quarterly earnings report on Tuesday, company executives were compelled to explain why its success in winning new clients during the quarter ending June 30 was at a four-year low. They also struggled to explain why a delay in decision-making among its clients had become apparent during the quarter. It all begged a very uncomfortable question: To what extent are the visa fraud lawsuit and the U.S. government's criminal investigation of Infosys causing prospective and existing clients to think twice about working with the company?


As I reported in my post, "Infosys CEO Fields Tough Questions About Visa Fraud Case," CEO Kris Gopalakrishnan told journalists in response to a question about visa abuse that from a client perspective, "if there are any questions placed, we are answering those questions to their satisfaction."


I don't know. I would imagine there are some clients that have had their questions answered to their satisfaction, but it seems implausible that the visa fraud mess isn't a serious concern among many companies that are betting their IT infrastructures on Infosys, or are considering doing so. It seems only natural that allegations of visa and tax fraud by a whistleblower with a stellar performance record at Infosys, and a U.S. government criminal investigation of the company, would create some real angst among companies in the United States, where Infosys gets about two-thirds of its revenue. And it seems equally natural that a company of Infosys' size and stature would somehow acknowledge that. Instead, it appears to have retreated and hunkered down in denial mode.


In an interview with Business Standard, Gopalakrishnan was asked why the number of new clients was so low during the quarter. This was his response:

There are some deals which are being closed in the first week of next month. Sometimes, a decision is made at the end of a month, but may get postponed to the next month to close the deal. These are just quarterly aberrations. Otherwise, there is nothing to read between the lines.

Well, come on, Kris. Isn't that the case every quarter? It doesn't explain why new deals were at a four-year low this quarter, does it? You're kind of forcing us to read between the lines, you know?


The delays in client decision-making, meanwhile, were a hot topic in the evening quarterly earnings call, during which Gopalakrishnan acknowledged that it was only in the most recent quarter that the delays became an issue. This is how he explained them:

[G]iven that there is uncertainty about the overall environment, sometimes you can see very short-term delays in decision-making. So, we want to be cautious because of that actually, rather than anything specific that we see in our client behavior. What we are seeing is, maybe it's temporary. ... Let's say a deal is supposed to be signed today. The client sees something in the market in the morning when they come in. They may delay actually that decision by two or three weeks till they fully understand the implications of that. The overhang of the global economy is in everybody's mind today. Are we going to see something dramatic happen suddenly? So, even though we are not seeing a reduction in IT budget, for example, we are not seeing a reduction in the IT budget. We believe that the money will be spent, but it may be delayed spending for the year. That is what we are cautious about. So, these delays are temporary in nature. So, for example a deal, which is supposed to close last quarter, may close early this quarter actually. It's a temporary delay. It's just not anything more specific than that. It is not attributable to any one thing. Something happens in the environment, which raises a concern. Suddenly a decision is taken to be cautious. That's it. So, there is nothing specific I can point to. These are temporary delays we see occasionally in decision making. So, it just is a delay for a week, two weeks, sometimes. So, these are not permanent. We are not waiting for something to close within an uncertainty. If a client says, "Yes everything is fine, but I will sign next week"-that kind of thing. Nothing more alarming than that at this point.

One analyst in particular kept pressing the issue, and asked Gopalakrishnan when the delays really started to become apparent. His response:

During the course of Q1[first quarter of Infosys' 2012 fiscal year ended June 30] that's it, on the last three months. Even when the Greece situation happened, that's when we saw concerns and even in the financial services actually. ... So, that happens. Suddenly there may be a week or two delay before they assess the situation or see whether it's going to deteriorate further. Or, for example, when France decided to actually renegotiate the loans outstanding. There is a temporary feeling of normalcy coming back, right? So, those are the things I'm talking about.

Seriously, Kris? There was nothing specific you could point to as reasons for the delays, but when really pressed, the best you could come up with were the economic situations in Greece and France? Do you honestly think a company that has to make a decision about whether to sign a multi-million-dollar contract with Infosys is wringing its hands over the Greek government defaulting on its loans, not over the U.S. government investigating your company for institutionalized criminal wrongdoing?


This story is getting more surreal by the day. If it wasn't the cause of such anguish for the whistleblower who had the courage to expose the wrongdoing, and who continues to be treated by Infosys as a leper, it would be humorous. As it is, it's sickening.

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Jul 14, 2011 1:07 AM Dolores Dolores  says: in response to fivefamous

Once you hand over your IT business to an outside entity, it's very hard to take it back. Not something you can do quickly, that's for sure. I'll bet a lot of companies are thinking about it, though. I'll bet a lot of secret meetings are in the works.

Jul 14, 2011 1:43 AM VM VM  says: in response to Don Tennant

Don, thanks for your suggestion. My concern is that too much of Infosys is leaving the issue out of sight. I am not sure you got that side. Asking me to read something else also shows that you have already taken sides here.

Jul 14, 2011 2:02 AM who knows who knows  says:

Don can we get more insight on


Important extract : "In an interview, Lynn said the Pentagon has a good idea who made the attack but he would not offer details. He said it was by a nation rather an individual."

instead of too much of Infosys stuff...one it is boring and two it does nothing to stop their success or failure.

All damage Infosys wanted was done my Jay Palmer and he is one who needs to get credit for anything happens good towards fraud control. We had that news and few of the steps taken by Infosys which was OK but running behind them and listing their steps/mis-steps is of no good for anyone.

We need to wait and see what is the outcome of Jay Palmer's case and make sure he is safe and protect..to me he is one and only good sole in whole Infosys and one of the few good sole left in US.

Jul 14, 2011 4:11 AM SealTeam6 SealTeam6  says: in response to who knows

The insight would be that based on the new Pentagon cyber threat retaliation plan, it would be a bad idea if somebody bounced a hack attack on the Pentagon via an Infosys server. :-|

Jul 14, 2011 5:00 AM R. Lawson R. Lawson  says: in response to Dolores

I had to drive my mother to the airport during that call.  Do you have a transcript or recording?  I wanted to sign on to it.

Jul 14, 2011 5:30 AM Dolores Dolores  says: in response to R. Lawson

I'll send you a summary when I see that they've posted it.

Jul 14, 2011 6:25 AM TM TM  says: in response to VM

you stole my words VM..there is nothing from under the Rug these days. Total crap!

Jul 14, 2011 10:32 AM BT1024 BT1024  says: in response to Dolores


I saw your first comment about the USCIS phone conference and now your dialog with R. Lawson...

I was wondering, how did you get invited to participate in the call ?

Will the summary (or transcript, or any info) be posted on the USCIS site ?

- I would be interested in finding out more about what was discussed...

- I participated in the Bright Future Jobs call with the DOJ last week and found it to be very informative...

Thank you for any info you may have,


Jul 14, 2011 11:00 AM Dolores Dolores  says:

The entire situation of having foreign guestworkers here competing for jobs in a crowded labor market is surreal. I was on a conference call with USCIS yesterday where callers were suggesting ways to make it easier for them to stay here and not have to go home. One woman raved about H-1B doctors. What percentage of H-1Bs here are doctors? What percentage of them are doing jobs that hundreds of Americans recently did and would love to do again?

Jul 14, 2011 11:01 AM VM VM  says:

Infosys switches to Windows 7. I think microsoft is very concerned about the issue with visa fraud and infosys and has decided not to support infosys on xp......

Come on Don. Please do some serious reporting here. I think you are more emotionally inclined towards infosys rather than the actual case and situation out there. If your intention is only about visa fraud please check facts and come out with a neutral report rather than writing about one organization. If your intention is to bash infosys then you are doing an average job. You are only losing your credibility on a daily basis. Your blog is becoming a crib cradle for people who cannot tolerate globalization and the fact that there are other people out there with whom they have to compete. Tell me how many products that you use at your home today are from USA. I can bet more than 75% is from China. You are looking at white collared jobs that pay well and crib that no one else in this damn world is affected. Adaptation comes with tolerance and resistance is for perishing.

I would strongly recommend you to do an investigative reporting and highlight the actual issues and your thoughts to overcome them with an open mind than that of a protectionist

Jul 14, 2011 11:42 AM R. Lawson R. Lawson  says:

In some aspects Infosys is lucky - and they don't even know it.  They are being forced early on to staff up with more American workers because of a civil suit and miscalculations on the B-1 and the enforcement.  The timing for them is good because we have a poor economy, weak labor market, and people to fill those positions.

In the not too distant future I believe that body shops will be shut out of the H-1b program.  I would suspect that by the time that happens the economy will be in better shape and we will have a tighter job market.  When Wipro and Tata are shut out, they won't have a weak labor market to fill the void and they will be fighting for workers.  Projects will collapse, companies will sue, and they will be in serious trouble.

Infosys will struggle early on.  They've got to get over this initial pain.  But they really should rip the band-aid off and accept where things are going.  They will come out a stronger company if they do.  Are Wipro and Tata are probably betting that they can continue business as usual indefinitely?

It just makes bad business sense to staff your foreign offices with people from your nation at rates over 80%.  At some point that will come to an end and your foreign operations will be in trouble.  If these companies were smart they would make it a goal to get that number as low as possible.

Jul 14, 2011 11:46 AM Don Tennant Don Tennant  says: in response to VM

Ah, the irony. Long-time readers will get a kick out of me being labeled a protectionist, I would imagine. As I've said to the many readers who have labeled me a fanboy for globalization and therefore see no value in this blog, this blog is required reading for no one. If you derive no value from reading it, I have a friendly suggestion for you: Don't read it. There's plenty of other stuff out there to read.

Jul 14, 2011 12:26 PM SealTeam6 SealTeam6  says:

The usual approach of throwing everything and the kitchen sink in terms of an "explanation". Surprised he didn't mention the debt ceiling imbroglio in Congress a reason for the down numbers.

Jul 14, 2011 12:50 PM fivefamous fivefamous  says: in response to Don Tennant

Just to understand this better I went to their site and saw the exact details.

"why new deals were at a four-year low this quarter" _ what does that mean. Is it meaning suddenly new clients stop coming to Infosys?

I see this values:

Number of client       Jun30, 2011    Mar31 2011   Jun30 2010

Active -                     628                620               590

Added new -              26                  34                 38

Now this is the numbers. Now it is individuals to decide how huge impact Infosys had. The world 4 yr low is may be first time in 4 year they added less than 30 new clients in a quarter! Or may be 2nd lowest number in 4 yrs is 27, 3rd lowest is 28 and 4th lowest client addition in last yrs may be 29. I don't know all this answer don't want to research so much by opening their old results. Just wanted to get a feel about significance of "Clients' Angst" over Infosys.

Another interesting thing I saw:

Repeat business          99.2%           97%              99.4%

Jul 15, 2011 1:40 AM hireamerican hireamerican  says: in response to Dolores

Was the 'insurgent' on the DOJ call? or the USCIS call?

Jul 15, 2011 1:43 AM SealTeam6 SealTeam6  says: in response to who knows

Hopefully the evidence Palmer has makes him the Christoph Meili of the tech world. And like Meili I wouldn't be  surprised if he's going to need protection after this.


Jul 15, 2011 2:24 AM R. (Roy) Lawson R. (Roy) Lawson  says: in response to BT1024

""I'm also a BFJ member. The organization is bigger than it looks."....

I heard R. Lawson sign into the BFJ call last week (I've been omitting Mr. Lawson's first name because he may not wan't it revealed)..."

It's Roy Lawson of Oldsmar Florida  

I've been public for a long time now.  I did sign onto that call and found it very informative.  I most definately support what BFJ is doing, and will help them as they see fit.

As far as Jay being in harms way (regarding another comment here) I seriously doubt he is.  These foreign firms don't have much leverage on our soil.  Jay may want to cross out India as a vacation destination, but other than that I think he is fine.

As far as my own safety, let's just leave it at "the state of Florida is a conceal carry state".  That said I doubt Infosys or any of the outsourcing firms would bother me, but if they are into that kind of thing I hope they at least have the common decency to send a professional. 

These guys won't fight with guns or goons when they have an army of lawyers and lobbyists working for them.  Too bad because I think we have a better chance against the guns and goons

Jul 15, 2011 2:49 AM jobs4US jobs4US  says: in response to VM

We have a saying in the US - if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. 

Are you kidding? FINALLY the US government is taking action to enforce Visa Fraud and abuse.  The beauty its with one of the biggest and meanest abusers. There's no way they are the only company doing this but in US law, rulings against this abuser will trickle down to the rest.

Americans, let's think globally and act locally.  We need to start turning up the heat to expose US companies hiring Infosys and other abusers - and, alert local media and spread the word that these employers knowingly hire a company accused of widespread visa fraud to offshore USA jobs.  Suggest the community boycott these companies.

Jul 15, 2011 2:51 AM BT1024 BT1024  says: in response to R. (Roy) Lawson


I knew your first name from the "write-up" that Don Tennant did... I just figured with the recent negative comments about American workers, floating around from some of the folks, I figured I wouldn't use your first name...

I had asked Dolores for more info about the USCIS call, but I guess (assuming by the name Dolores) she (but I may be wrong about "she") may have missed my request for more info...

Do you (can you) reveal more info about that USCIS call - or where I could find the info - or transcripts/agenda ?

Thank you,


Jul 15, 2011 2:58 AM a a  says: in response to SealTeam6

Guys, get real. These companies have better job than coming after you.

Jul 15, 2011 3:06 AM SealTeam6 SealTeam6  says: in response to a

That all depends on what the penalties the companies like Infosys will face. If it a huge sum like the Swiss case that might even permanently cripple the company, I will not put it beyond corporations (there are enough examples) to deliberately try and destroy the character and credibility of the witness. It is also to serve as a threat to anyone else who might have similar whistle blowing ideas. One thing I'm certain of is that no non-Indian will ever be given access to a position where they could obtain the information Palmer has got. The Americans who are appointed will all be carefully screened and tremendously compensated to look the other way to create an illusion of fairness.

Jul 15, 2011 3:38 AM Dolores Dolores  says: in response to hireamerican

I was describing the USCIS call. He kept asking why we were letting them in with so many Americans out of work. A question so obvious and timely that USCIS had no answer.

Jul 15, 2011 3:43 AM hireamerican hireamerican  says: in response to a

Ofcourse, till you are in their shoes and the companies are after you:P

Jul 15, 2011 3:45 AM SealTeam6 SealTeam6  says: in response to Dolores

I don't think that USCIS rep could have answered it honestly even if he wanted to, since  they would have to toe the government line which created the situation in the first place by slack laws.

Jul 15, 2011 3:46 AM hireamerican hireamerican  says: in response to Dolores

Thanks for the info Dolores.

USCIS would never say words like segregated recruiting, cheaper and better access to training for H1bs etc etc....:P

Jul 15, 2011 4:42 AM who knows who knows  says: in response to jobs4US

And you need to start that boycott from Walmart, Home Depot.....the list will include all Fortune 500 companies, banks, World bank, IMF, federal and state government...list will keep going excluding you and me.

By boycott all you will achieve would be either not able to get anything for your family to eat or get something which you don't want to. And if at all you where successful in boycott it will end up several hundreds losing jobs who work on those companies who use company like Infosys.

How about isolating every person who work for those company and who indirectly taking part in the fraud, who are not exposing the fraud, who are running out of kitchen (because of not able to take the heat).....to me it sounds super crazy and idiotic...

How about be realistic rather being sensational about this.

Realistic way is expose the abuser (in this case corporate(s)) and make sure whoever does exposing not get isolated or affected in anyway.

Jul 15, 2011 5:21 AM Dolores Dolores  says: in response to who knows

Not true, even small changes in our buying habits would get noticed and would give the powers that be fits. Our consuming (buying and all other types) are meticulously tracked by analysts and computer that can detect miniscule changes. You'd be surprised how much stuff on the shelves is now made in America - and even more surpised to discover customers looking and asking for such merchandise. Buying second-hand (thrift stores) is another option, because even if the thing you buy second-hand was made overseas, it doesn't make the foreign cash registers ring a second time. Americans are bombarded by people trying to tell them we're helpless, we're too far in the hole, there's nothing we can do. America needs to stop listening to those voices, and there are signs that this is starting to happen.

Jul 15, 2011 6:00 AM SealTeam6 SealTeam6  says: in response to who knows

Your argument is akin to saying people shouldn't stop smoking because it will cause the tobacco industry a loss in their business and hence layoff their employees. Unfortunately there will be pain in the short term while this state of affairs finds its new equilibrium

Jul 15, 2011 6:42 AM hireamerican hireamerican  says: in response to who knows

We can take the short term pain for long term gain.

We have to give up eating things like blueberries, strawberries etc which are labor intensive crops and hence encourage farmers to employ illegal aliens. This will also hurt companies like super Walmart that have have the grocery section in terms of lost sales. So what if I don't eat them for now. I can still live :). I can also live without remodeling my bathroom(Home Depot). Fewer financial transactions will hit the banks most definitely.....you get the picture....small changes can make a big difference. Nothing works like an economic boycott.

Jul 15, 2011 7:50 AM Dolores Dolores  says: in response to BT1024

I'm also a BFJ member. The organization is bigger than it looks.

Jul 15, 2011 7:54 AM SealTeam6 SealTeam6  says:

I think people are quite sick and tired of the "experts" and "analysts" aka shills telling them that the H1-B program is for their own good and somehow benefits them. What was Lincoln's quote "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.".

We've had a decade of fooling.

Jul 15, 2011 8:05 AM Dolores Dolores  says:

Funny thing, I just had an email from Blockbuster looking for my business and I just now gave them what-for over Infosys and turned down their offer.

Jul 15, 2011 9:24 AM SealTeam6 SealTeam6  says:

A couple of attorneys and industry analysts weigh in on the case

Infosys Visa Probe: Debating Impact on American IT Workers


Jul 15, 2011 11:46 AM who knows who knows  says: in response to SealTeam6

This video has additional details on Jay Palmer case....for people interested in it


Jul 15, 2011 11:59 AM BT1024 BT1024  says: in response to Dolores

"I'm also a BFJ member. The organization is bigger than it looks."....

I heard R. Lawson sign into the BFJ call last week (I've been omitting Mr. Lawson's first name because he may not wan't it revealed)...

I'm not sure how many of the folks I see posting here and elsewhere, are active with BFJ...

What about those USCIS questions I asked ? - If you want, or need to keep that info private, I'm OK with that....

I checked the USCIS site and didn't find anything related to the call you mentioned, though I did see something posted on "Immigration Voice" about a July call for employers and I guess immigration lawyers.

Jul 15, 2011 12:11 PM Dolores Dolores  says: in response to BT1024

Yes, as usual some of "them" called in to bellyache about their individual cases or wish lists. And an insurgent called in - and was heard, three times! It was absolutely weird, talking about making life smoother for guestworkers, when we have so many millions of white collar folks out of work. Who's lifting a finger for our people?

Jul 16, 2011 1:05 AM Just Say NO to Infosys Just Say NO to Infosys  says: in response to a

The content is pure fact, not emotion, and backed up by links to every customer citation, straight from Infosys or Infosys partner sites. The shortened URLs make it easier for readers to access content.

Jul 16, 2011 1:45 AM a a  says:

What a shame. You guys do not even realize what you are saying. Cost is the single most factor that drives the outsourcing industry. If we are ready to work white collared job at competitive pricing and can establish that we are much superior then why would someone go outside. The whole labour structure is a joke. There is compensation for this and that making the american worker unemployable due to the cost owed in benefits. It is a collective effort from everyones side that will make the difference. Forget Infosys for a minute and think rationally you will have your answer. It is not H1Bs that is costing the jobs it is own system. If there are no H1Bs the unemployment would still be there without the technical advancement as these companies could not have afforded the same. I am not here to support H1b but the situation is worth a thought.

Jul 16, 2011 4:26 AM Infosys Hall of Shame 2 - US Health Plans Infosys Hall of Shame 2 - US Health Plans  says: in response to a

American citizens - do you subscribe to any of the following healthcare plans? 

If so, please

1. Alert your local media

2. Notify your elected representatives

3. Contact your state's insurance commissioner to file a complaint

Ask them to investigate

1. Why does this employer enable Infosys visa fraud by allowing Infosys Staff to work illegally on their company premises

*Knowledge of a felony in the USA (and not reporting it) is a felony  

2. Why does this employer offshore US IT work to Infosys and deprive US citizens a fair chance to compete for these jobs?

*These health plan providers serve taxpayer-funded public sector employees, Medicare, Medicaid, and Obamacare

3. Why is Obamacare Affordable Care Act delivery offshored to Infosys?


Infosys Hall of Shame - Part 2

Obamacare ACA - Infosys Health Benefit Exchange  (DC, 50 states)

Obamacare Affordable Care Act offshored insurance exchange serving 30 million Americans to Infosys


Aetna Hartford CT, Blue Bell PA

Aetna Healthcare offshores USA IT to Infosys for 10 years   


Blue Cross & Blue Shield Association Chicago, DC and 39 Blues


Horizon Blue Cross Newark NJ

NJ provider of State and Federal government employees medical insurance offshores information technology to Infosys  


Mercy Health Plans  (St Louis MO, Springfield MO, Laredo TX, Oklahoma, Kansas, Arkansas) 

Mercy offshores information technology to Infosys 


California Medical Plan

Health plan provider offshores USA Medicare Medicaid projects to


US Pharmaceutical Firm (Infosys did not disclose company or location)

Offshores HIPAA Compliance to Infosys India  http://tinyurl.com/infosyspharma

Just Say NO to Infosys.  Please spread the word!!

Jul 16, 2011 4:36 AM Just Say NO to Infosys Just Say NO to Infosys  says: in response to a

"You guys do not even realize what you are saying."

Au contraire.

Respectfully, your comments illustrate that you lack knowledge of  American law, business, politics, and values.   Not to mention grammar.

Jul 16, 2011 7:48 AM hireamerican hireamerican  says: in response to a

H1bs did not invent technology :P

Jul 16, 2011 8:31 AM a a  says: in response to Just Say NO to Infosys

Thnx. Your listings from various sources clearly shows your lack of knowledge about the industry. You are emotional. Rather kindly do think about the root causes and you will be able to better appreciate what I said earlier. If not you can continue to google on Infosys or visit their website and keep posting tons of similar links. Why stop with Infosys, there are several others as well. You can have a fun ride doing that.

Jul 16, 2011 8:36 AM a a  says: in response to hireamerican

Lol. Neither did h1bs create the economic meltdown.

Jul 16, 2011 8:44 AM SealTeam6 SealTeam6  says: in response to a

You've heard the saying.. "The bigger they are the harder they fall". When the gory details of Infosys' visa practices come out in open court it will be interesting to watch both their stock and value fall . And the when the biggest player falls, the smaller ones will also get the fall out. 

Jul 16, 2011 10:06 AM Dolores Dolores  says: in response to a

God save us, another foreign blowhard with the mind of a toddler: seeing only the BEEEG dollar numbers in the American paycheck, but not having a clue about the BEEEG bills to pay and obligations to fulfill that come along with that paycheck. I swear some of these folks think that America's infrastructure, public health, and public facilities just rained down from the sky - or were stolen from India. And they think our paychecks are just spending money for us to enjoy. Yeah, that's right, we have plumbing and covered sewers because we stole India's. Riiiight. We need to not take lectures from a nation where medical insurance and pensions are considered luxuries. And for that matter, universal public education, clean running water, and reliable power. These folks actually believe that America owes its state of technological advancement to H-1Bs. And they say our kids 'dunno much about history.' Sheesh.

Jul 16, 2011 11:52 AM hireamerican hireamerican  says: in response to a

We cannot afford the H1bs any longer in this economy. Time to stop all visa programs. Programs riddled with fraud will only worsen the economy.

Jul 16, 2011 12:45 PM a a  says: in response to Dolores

Absolute waste of time is what I can say. You guys can continue to misunderstand the intention. I have been trying to point you all in the direction of the problem but you are narrow minded and fail to see further beyond infosys and now India......

I am going to stop. You can continue. Happy cribbing!

Jul 17, 2011 2:16 AM hireamerican hireamerican  says: in response to GuptaA

Indians at all income levels are racist, dishonest and greedy.

They bring corrupt practices that are part and parcel of the Indian way of life to middle class American life, thus deteriorating the quality of life for working class Americans. Enough of this nonsense.

Jul 17, 2011 6:36 AM a a  says: in response to hireamerican

Listen to yourself. Who is now being a racist. A few does not define a community or for that matter the country. Every country has it's tradition and culture built on honesty and tradition. Stick to the issue. See this becoming a crib cradle for close minded folks like the gentleman VM mentioned earlier.

Jul 17, 2011 6:40 AM Jobs4US Jobs4US  says: in response to GuptaA

Given India's challenges, it would seem to me that India needs its own best and brightest to improve the lives of millions.  Why then are the exporting their own talent?

I don't understand why so many visa workers from India are so focused on the quick buck and depriving Americans of their careers, homes, life savings, health insurance and more.

It my understanding that like the Americans they replace, h-1b visa workers living in the USA face abuse and difficult lives.     I can only imagine that helping one's own country overcome difficulties is a much more rewarding path.

Jul 17, 2011 6:48 AM Just Say NO to Infosys Fraud Just Say NO to Infosys Fraud  says: in response to a

These Infosys clients are directly from customer content published on  Infosys, Microsoft, and Oracle websites.  

TinyURL is a tool to abbreviate URLs.  I use it to make it easier to share links on discussion boards and Twitter

Jul 17, 2011 8:19 AM SealTeam6 SealTeam6  says: in response to a

"A few" ? Given that fraud findings are pretty across the entire outsourcing industry without exception, how can you say that it is a few ? It seems more like a calculated conspiracy from the highest levels of executives down to subvert, bypass and break business visa laws where ever possible. This is not the work of a few random individuals. It is a coverup that has been approved by Indian outsourcing companies to achieve their goals by whatever means possible.

If you think that our outcry and efforts to stop this industry killing practice is racist then that you have no understanding of the word.

Jul 17, 2011 8:20 AM hireamerican hireamerican  says: in response to a

India cannot even run the commonwealth games without massive corruption :P

Jul 17, 2011 8:37 AM hireamerican hireamerican  says: in response to SealTeam6

While I entirely agree with you on the issues you raise, I think we have to place the blame on US businesses and the US government as well. Why is the US government approving all these visas? And why are US businesses hiring them?

Jul 17, 2011 8:58 AM SealTeam6 SealTeam6  says:

I guess the alphabet soup of visas is already being bypassed:

More illegal immigrants from India crossing border

Napolitano: At some point this year, border-jumpers from subcontinent will account for about 1 in 3 non-Mexicans caught in Texas


Jul 17, 2011 9:09 AM GuptaA GuptaA  says: in response to SealTeam6

Statistically it should not surprize you.. India has world's one fifth population and have 40% people living below 1 dollar a day. There are a lot of people who will do a lot to escape the poverty and come to the land of dreams.. I dont think it should be surprize.

Jul 17, 2011 10:07 AM SealTeam6 SealTeam6  says: in response to GuptaA

The thing is Amera is no longer the "land of dreams". Those days are gone. All that this illegal visa violation by both Indian companies and Indians crossing the border is doing is to create a a backlash and ill will against them. America's welcome mat is being trampled on and ruined by people who seem to have no concept of honesty and respect for America. So it is not surprising to see a rise in anti-Indian sentiments. This is an unfortunate but expected outcome in a failing economy.

Jul 17, 2011 10:28 AM SealTeam6 SealTeam6  says: in response to hireamerican

It obviously takes "two to tango". The government is always manipulated by powerful industry lobbyists. There are enough examples of this. American businesses are also riddled with CEOs who have only their personal pocket book in mind and leap at the first chance to dump their employees for cheaper (but not better) outsourcing options. Unfortunately what they do is hard to prosecute in a court of law.

Violation of the visa law is the only (in my opinion) tangible way to open a avenue to getting some payback. I only hope the scope of the case can expand to become a class action law suit. Punitive fines for 10 years of scamming the American worker would make for a very appealing lawsuit that should attract a bunch of law firms looking for a big payout.

Jul 18, 2011 11:19 AM GuptaA GuptaA  says: in response to Jobs4US

Indian corporate and institutions are competing with the rest of the MNCs from anywhere in the world in acquisition of talent. There are many industries in India who earlier were hiring toppers from IITs / IIMs but can no longer even hire a single candidate from there as most of the MNCs outsmart them in hiring markets.

Jul 19, 2011 5:33 AM Wakjob Wakjob  says:

Infy's earnings are plunging because its clients have figured out that it's one gigantic fraud scam RICO racket. All their projects fail and their workers all have fake degrees and zero skills. Clients that use Infy get burned and never go back. Now with the latest criminal investigations it will only get worse. My prediction is we will see Infy disappear from America once its execs and managers start getting sent to prison. Finally the whole world knows the truth about the Indian outsourcing industry.

Jul 19, 2011 5:43 AM Wakjob Wakjob  says:

"Seriously, Kris? There was nothing specific you could point to as reasons for the delays, but when really pressed, the best you could come up with were the economic situations in Greece and France? Do you honestly think a company that has to make a decision about whether to sign a multi-million-dollar contract with Infosys is wringing its hands over the Greek government defaulting on its loans, not over the U.S. government investigating your company for institutionalized criminal wrongdoing?"

Don, when are you going to learn that 99% of Indians are boasters, BS'ers, conmen, and charlatans. You obviously don't know the reputation of Indians very well.

In Silicon Valley they are well known as "The Indian Mafia". The biggest part of our economic problem is we have bought into Indian PR and hype and believed they were somehow superior in IT to American IT workers. This coming from a country unable to create its own operating system, build enough toilets, or keep any of our companies going that they take over.


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